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does money in trust affect benefits

by Prof. Ludwig Sawayn Sr. Published 3 years ago Updated 2 years ago
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January 24th, 2015 Funds held in a properly drafted special needs trust will not affect a Supplemental Security Income

Supplemental Security Income

Supplemental Security Income is a United States means-tested federal welfare program that provides cash assistance to individuals residing in the United States who are either aged 65 or older, blind, or disabled. SSI was created by the Social Security Amendments of 1972 and is incorporated in Title 16 of the Social Security Act. The program began operations in 1974.

(SSI) or Medicaid

Medicaid

Medicaid in the United States is a federal and state program that helps with medical costs for some people with limited income and resources. Medicaid also offers benefits not normally covered by Medicare, including nursing home care and personal care services. The Health Insurance As…

recipient’s benefits
. But problems can develop when funds come out of a special needs trust.

HOW DOES MONEY FROM A TRUST THAT IS NOT MY RESOURCE AFFECT MY SSI BENEFITS
SSI BENEFITS
SSI stands for Supplemental Security Income. Social Security administers this program. We pay monthly benefits to people with limited income and resources who are disabled, blind, or age 65 or older. Blind or disabled children may also get SSI.
https://www.ssa.gov › ssi › text-over-ussi
? Money paid directly to you from the trust reduces your SSI benefit. Money paid directly to someone to provide you with food or shelter reduces your SSI benefit but only up to a certain limit.

Full Answer

What happens to my benefits if I put money in trust?

Even if the money goes into trust, the claimant still has to declare receipt of it and take the benefit loss.

Is the money in a trust safe?

The trust is its own entity. That means that if your beneficiary should run into financial trouble, the money in the trust is safe. Let’s say that Bill has more problems than just a tendency to hit the casinos too hard.

Would a trust fund impact on any social benefits?

Would this Trust Fund impact on any social benefits?. If your child is on income related benefits then the share of your house that they own would be considered capital for benefits. I don't think putting it in a trust would change that. If you claim income related benefits, then it being in trust with them owning part of it could affect them.

Does having a trust affect SSI benefits?

Those who are seeking benefits and have a trust must be aware of the kind of trust they have as it could affect their ability to get SSI. Money that is not the applicant’s resource can also affect SSI. Any money paid directly to a SSI claimant will reduce their SSI.

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Is money from a trust fund considered income?

Key Takeaways. Money taken from a trust is subject to different taxation than funds from ordinary investment accounts. Trust beneficiaries must pay taxes on income and other distributions that they receive from the trust. Trust beneficiaries don't have to pay taxes on returned principal from the trust's assets.

Does money in a trust count as an asset?

Almost all trust funds are counted in the financial aid process, often as an asset of the child. This leads to a high impact on eligibility for need-based financial aid. If the trust fund document restricted the beneficiary's access to the principal, the trust fund will affect aid eligibility every year.

What are the disadvantages of a trust fund?

What are the Disadvantages of a Trust?Costs. When a decedent passes with only a will in place, the decedent's estate is subject to probate. ... Record Keeping. It is essential to maintain detailed records of property transferred into and out of a trust. ... No Protection from Creditors.

What is the advantage of putting your money in a trust?

1. Trusts avoid the probate process. While assets controlled by your will have to go through probate in order to be verified and distributed according to your wishes, trust assets usually don't. A will becomes a part of public record, while a trust agreement stays private.

Should I put my bank accounts in my trust?

To make sure your Beneficiaries can easily access your accounts and receive their inheritance, protect your assets by putting them in a Trust. A Trust-Based Estate Plan is the most secure way to make your last wishes known while protecting your assets and loved ones.

What happens when you inherit money from a trust?

The trust itself must report income to the IRS and pay capital gains taxes on earnings. It must distribute income earned on trust assets to beneficiaries annually. If you receive assets from a simple trust, it is considered taxable income and you must report it as such and pay the appropriate taxes.

What are the pros and cons of a trust?

Advantages And Disadvantages Of A TrustAvoid Probate Court. ... Your Personal And Financial Matters Remain Private. ... You Maintain Control Of Your Finances After You Pass Away. ... Reduce The Possibility Of A Court Challenge. ... Prevent A Conservatorship.

Why would a person want to set up a trust?

The main purpose of a trust is to transfer assets from one person to another. Trusts can hold different kinds of assets. Investment accounts, houses and cars are examples. One advantage of a trust is that it usually avoids having your assets (and your heirs) go through probate when you die.

What are the 3 types of trust?

To help you get started on understanding the options available, here's an overview the three primary classes of trusts.Revocable Trusts.Irrevocable Trusts.Testamentary Trusts.More items...•

At what net worth do I need a trust?

Here's a good rule of thumb: If you have a net worth of at least $100,000 and have a substantial amount of assets in real estate, or have very specific instructions on how and when you want your estate to be distributed among your heirs after you die, then a trust could be for you.

What assets Cannot be placed in a trust?

Assets That Can And Cannot Go Into Revocable TrustsReal estate. ... Financial accounts. ... Retirement accounts. ... Medical savings accounts. ... Life insurance. ... Questionable assets.

Should you put everything in a trust?

Living trusts keep your assets out of probate court if you pass away, because the trust technically owns everything. The person you name as the trustee takes over your assets and acts according to the wishes you laid out in the trust. However, not all of your assets can or should go into a living trust.

What are considered assets for SSI?

It is important to remember that there are generally certain properties that will be considered assets for SSI eligibility determination purposes. Income that is countable and excluded, resources that are also counted and excluded, and property or payments that the person has a right to have but does not get are considered assets. Special needs trusts and pooled trusts are not taken into consideration when making a SSI determination. Those who are seeking benefits and have a trust must be aware of the kind of trust they have as it could affect their ability to get SSI.

What is a trust for SSI?

A trust allows one party to control property for another’s benefit. A person who is getting SSI can have a trust in some cases. In that trust, there can be cash and other liquid assets as well as property that can be transitioned into cash. In general, the trust will be considered a resource when applying or retaining SSI. With a revocable trust, the entire trust is the person’s resource. With an irrevocable trust, if there are parts of the trust in which payments could be made to benefit the person, then that amount will be viewed as a resource. Resources are a key factor in determining a person’s eligibility for SSI.

How much is the SSI reduced for 2017?

If the money is paid directly to a person who is providing food and shelter for the claimant, then the SSI award will be reduced, but only up to $265 for 2017. Money that is paid to someone who provides medical care, pays for school, telephone bills, and other items for an SSI claimant will not affect SSI.

Who should be aware of how this is viewed by the SSA with regard to SSI benefits?

People who have a trust or are considering having a trust set up should be aware of how this is viewed by the SSA with regard to SSI benefits. A legal professional who understands the details of SSI Supplemental Security Income may be able to help with understanding trusts and what they mean with SSI.

Can a pooled trust affect SSI?

Special needs trusts and pooled trusts are not taken into consideration when making a SSI determination. Those who are seeking benefits and have a trust must be aware of the kind of trust they have as it could affect their ability to get SSI. Money that is not the applicant’s resource can also affect SSI.

Is a trust a resource?

In general, the trust will be considered a resource when applying or retaining SSI. With a revocable trust, the entire trust is the person’s resource . With an irrevocable trust, if there are parts of the trust in which payments could be made to benefit the person, then that amount will be viewed as a resource.

What is the portion of an irrevocable trust?

In the case of an irrevocable trust, if there are any circumstances under which payment could be made to you or for your benefit, the portion of the trust from which payment could be made is your resource.

Does money paid to someone reduce SSI?

Money paid directly to someone to provide you with items other than food and shelter does not reduce your SSI benefits. (Items that are not "food or shelter" include medical care, telephone bills, education, entertainment, etc.)

Is a trust a resource for SSI?

If you use your assets to establish a trust on or after January 1, 2000, generally, the trust will count as your resource for SSI. In the case of a revocable trust, the whole trust is your resource. In the case of an irrevocable trust, if there are any circumstances under which payment could be made to you or for your benefit, ...

Does trust count as income for SSI?

Some trusts and trust payments that we do not count as your resources or income for SSI purposes can affect your Medicaid eligibility. Contact your State if you need more information about how trust and trust payments can affect Medicaid eligibility.

Can you count a trust if it causes hardship?

We will also not count the trust if counting it causes you hardship, and you meet the undue hardship criteria.

Does money paid directly to you from the trust reduce your SSI benefit?

Money paid directly to you from the trust reduces your SSI benefit.

Is Social Security Disability affected by Social Security?

Social Security Disability will not be affected. SSI or welfare disability would be affected.

Is Social Security Disability Insurance a means tested benefit?

Social Security Disability Insurance (SSDI) benefits are not means tested and would not be affected by the trust income. Supplemental Security Income (SSI) is means tested and this income would affect the benefit. My guess is that both you and your mother are not SSI recipients, so there shouldn't be a negative effect.

What happens if a trust lends money to a child?

If the trust lends her the money the property is jointly owned by the trust and mum. On sale the trust will receive the same ratio of the sale proceeds for the benefit of the children That way it protects the children's' inheritance.

Is a trust written for individual people?

I would suggest that you seek help from a solicitor who is experienced in these matters as each trust is written for the individual people and circumstances - it is not an off the shelf product - it must be tied up with the contents of the will.

What are the benefits of a trust?

One of the biggest benefits of a trust is that it allows you to control exactly how you want your assets distributed. For example, let’s say that Jane simply hands her entire estate to her son Bill after she dies. Bill is not the most conscientious person in the world.

Why is a trust important?

Why exactly is a trust a good idea for your wealth? Here are five important reasons: Keeps Your Estate Out of Probate. When you die, your entire estate will have to go through “probate,” a long, arduous, and expensive process, whereby the court system determines how to divvy up your property.

What would Jane have done if she had put her estate into a trust?

If Jane had put her estate into a trust, she could have instructed her trustee to make monthly or quarterly distributions to Bill or only to distribu te funds for certain expenses or when certain requirements have been met. (For example, when Bill graduates from college or turns 25.) (Jane really should have taught Bill about the value of saving and investing when he was a kid.)

What happens if a beneficiary runs into financial trouble?

The trust is its own entity. That means that if your beneficiary should run into financial trouble, the money in the trust is safe. Let’s say that Bill has more problems than just a tendency to hit the casinos too hard.

Why do you need an irrevocable trust?

Certain types of irrevocable trusts can help you avoid expensive estate taxes, which can take a big chunk out of the legacy you want to leave your children if your estate is worth enough money. If you’d rather leave your money to your children instead of Uncle Sam, a trust can help with that. You Maintain Control.

What happens if you are in probate?

Privacy. If your estate goes through probate, it becomes a matter of public record. Everyone can see what you owned and how much you owed. A trust keeps your financial affairs private, as they should be. Protection. Your beneficiaries do not own the assets in your trust until they are distributed.

What happens to Bill after Jane dies?

A year after Jane dies and Bill inherits her estate, he is sued by his business partner. That business partner could try to go after all of Bill’s finances, including what he inherited from Jane. The same thing could happen if Bill gets divorced or files for bankruptcy.

What happens if you transfer assets out of a trust?

If the assets in the trust are NOT countable under the rules above, there is a Medicaid transfer penalty. Remember, the transfer penalty is “punishment” for transferring the assets out of your name, to a place where they cannot be counted, and then applying for Medicaid within five years of the transfer.

What happens if an asset does not count?

If an asset does not count because it was not available to the applicant at his option, then it certainly will not be available for estate recovery when the applicant dies.

Can a trust be used to make a distribution to a parent?

I said “MUST” . . . the trustee MAY be able to make a distribution and it won’t cause any Medicaid problems.

Can Medicaid see assets?

Medicaid can see everything in it, and if assets are otherwise countable the trust doesn’t make any difference. That is (heh, heh) “plain to see.”. That is why most living trusts don’t do a thing for asset protection (although I do occasionally use them in advanced asset protection planning strategies).

Can you recover assets from Medicaid if you die?

If the asset is under the limit for qualifying for Medicaid or is not counted by Medicaid for eligibility purposes, the asset may still be available for estate recovery when the applicant dies. Let’s take each of these general Medicaid rules and apply them to trusts.

Is a trust revocable or irrevocable?

It depends upon two things. Whether the trust is revocable or irrevocable, and whether the trust was set-up by the applicant or his spouse.

Is a trust set up under a will and testament the same as a trust set up by a?

In other words, a trust under either Mom’s or Dad’s last will and testament is treated the same as a trust set up by some other person .

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